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. >> social security does not add one penny to the deficit. it's an important program, critical program. take care of it in the future and do it separate from the debt debate. >> i think most would agree that social security is not responsible for the deficit. clearly shouldn't be on the table for discussion. >> that might be true if lawmakers hadn't already borrowed and spent all the program surplus revenues from years past, which by law congress now has to pay back. adding to the deficit. >> the money came in. congress spent it. look here, we have money to spend. let's go ahead and spend it up. there it went. it's gone. >> social security now needs to start getting the money back again adds to the deficit. just this year alone, the social security trustees' report that "in 2012, the projected difference between social security's dedicated tax income and expenditures is $165 billion." part of the $165 billion added to the deficit, $112 billion of it is a result of the payroll tax cut that president obama pushed through, which by law congress
. >> social security does not add one penny to the deficit. it's an important program, critical program. take care of it in the future and do it separate from the debt debate. >> i think most would agree that social security is not responsible for the deficit. clearly shouldn't be on the table for discussion. >> that might be true if lawmakers hadn't already borrowed and spent all the program surplus revenues from years past, which by law congress now has to pay back. adding...
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the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is felt universally by your colleagues? we know a couple of them have bolted from that but you are going to hold in lock step on that position? >>guest: there is a universality in our conference with 240 of us in the house of representatives so there are 240 different opinions but by and large the majority of us firmly believe raising tax rates is counterproductive and doesn't solve the problem. >>neil: always a pleasure, sir, thank you. take the money and run? not quite but quite a run of companies hiking dividends. and disney is the latest and it will prob
the spending deductions have not reduced our deficit. we still have, the president still has $1 trillion plus deficit if this next fiscal year. he had it for the past four and he has it for the next four if he follows the same course. that is not a road to prosperity or job creation. or economic vitality. >>neil: i want to be clear, congressman. republicans do not appear to be on the same page on this, as republicans, are you saying your view, hiking the rates or adjusting in any way is...
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we have a $1.2 billion deficit. one of the things i'm hearing from my republican sources over the last few days is they say the president isn't talking about spending cuts. wasn't it interesting in his remarks today i don't think the president mentioned cutting spending one time. so the republicans are saying wait a minute all the president wants to do is raise these taxes on small businesses and i vesters and quote rich people. on the other hand he's not putting on the table any reductions in spending or entitlements. and i think we all know, whether you're a democrat, republican, independent we have to start chopping these programs and reforming them or we will surrender to an ocean of debt. jenna: when does that moment of reckoning come? is it here now? that's the big question? >> i don't think it's here now. i think the window is khroeusing and i think there is a lot of frustration that we can't seem to come to an agreement. just one example, jenna, the president in the negotiations has said well social security
we have a $1.2 billion deficit. one of the things i'm hearing from my republican sources over the last few days is they say the president isn't talking about spending cuts. wasn't it interesting in his remarks today i don't think the president mentioned cutting spending one time. so the republicans are saying wait a minute all the president wants to do is raise these taxes on small businesses and i vesters and quote rich people. on the other hand he's not putting on the table any reductions in...
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he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax reform you broaden out debate like an 82-year-o 82-year-old. >> you think, however, reading from your notes and looking at the stock market, particularly retail stocks, you believe that taxes are going up. you believe that's the stock market message, it meal why then. the blebs saying it when you look at the retailing names, the market tells you they think all the middle class market will get extended. you see order? core it's not just this consumption that's going to you're going to gets will live dent, small cap stocks are underperforming. we're going to have a hard cap gains tax, a high are def
he said that's going to put a drag on the economy but we have to do something about the deficit. i don't really understand reasonings. i think he needs to go back to economic then i would argue the deficit gets worse because the revenues don't come in because the unemployment rate goes up. >> you're absolutely right. france instituted a 75% marginal tax great early last night grease going we've got to make sure we're getting gross right if we want to face the deficit. you go pro row tax...
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social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years. >> reporter: a source with engine of knowledge -- with knowledge of the negotiation says there is no date set in stone for the next meeting among the principle negotiate othe timing will depend on the progress of staff member, in the next few days. but we should not be surprised if they get together, sthiem week. shannon. >> shannon: we wish them much luck. thank you. our worst-case scenario, there isn't a deal. the former economics director it'll peter tracy, tells what did you say to expect if that happens and what will happen if it doesn't. let's talk positive, first. who do you think, if something comes together, will be the key players. >> we need to see president obama move off the position of entitlements and propose real reductions, tangible, real, so there is something to balance with the rather substantial tax proposals. >> shannon: who do you think in
social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program, but give it solvency for more and more years. >> reporter: a source with engine of knowledge -- with knowledge of the negotiation says there is no date set in stone for the next meeting among the principle negotiate othe timing will depend on the progress of staff member, in the next few days. but we should not be surprised if they get together, sthiem...
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social security has not added one penny to the deficit. for those who say there is good reason to push it off the table and wait, i would add a note of caution. small changes made today in social security will play out over the long run to buy us solvency for a long time. we should take perhaps all the security off the table but be very honest but we will achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of eight simpson- bowles region of a simpson- bowles, and come up with a plan to buy 75 years of salt with the rigid of solvency. i might add a wrinkle here. every 10 years, a similar commission ought to be created. let's not get into this mess where we have six months to go with social security. you know how important it is for people. people are devastated by the recession and their pension plans lost. it is important to us, our kids come and grandchildren. i think we should create a commission that will report back to congress before a vote by the end of the next calendar year. i want to talk about the two toughest eleme
social security has not added one penny to the deficit. for those who say there is good reason to push it off the table and wait, i would add a note of caution. small changes made today in social security will play out over the long run to buy us solvency for a long time. we should take perhaps all the security off the table but be very honest but we will achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of eight simpson- bowles region of a simpson- bowles, and come up with a...
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it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >>reporter: the president said he would be willing to have a framework in the short-term for spending cuts neck year but republicans likes speaker boehner are saying if you split all this up and only do the tax side and wait on the spend cuts until next year republicans are skeptical the spending cuts will ever actually materialize. this is all very critical because earlier today, erskine bowles, a budget expert who has become an influential figure, said he thinks that there is a two out of three chance that we are going to fall off the fiscal cliff it is a high probability. >>neil: gephardt think it is a possibility to kick the can down for three, six months, and let all of the cuts, delay the cuts, and delaney dressing on the rates for at least that long. how likely is that? >>reporter: it is something that the republicans would like to see so maybe they can fig
it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >>reporter: the president said he would be willing to have a framework in the short-term for spending cuts neck year but republicans likes speaker boehner are saying if you split all this up and only do the tax side and wait on the spend cuts until next year...
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we want to raise -- deficit. we want to raise taxes, cut defense -- we're willing to do all four of those things. megyn: marc, how does taking money out of medicare and giving it to obamacare cut spending? [laughter] >> it doesn't. >> that's not what i said, megyn. that's not what i said. >> it doesn't cut spending. they cut money out of medicare and put it to fund obamacare, but president obama has not put forward a plan to deal with the entitlement crisis. he put forward no plan on social security, medicare or medicaid, which he himself admits is what is driving the debt and driving the real fiscal crisis. so they have put forward no plans whatsoever, and when paul ryan and others have put forward our plans, they've pilied them for it. i'm glad president obama's meeting with simon. i'd love for him to meet with john john boehner. [laughter] megyn: simon's got a lot of good ideas. were you in that meeting with the unions and the progressive groups that the president had -- >> no. i was in a different meeting. th
we want to raise -- deficit. we want to raise taxes, cut defense -- we're willing to do all four of those things. megyn: marc, how does taking money out of medicare and giving it to obamacare cut spending? [laughter] >> it doesn't. >> that's not what i said, megyn. that's not what i said. >> it doesn't cut spending. they cut money out of medicare and put it to fund obamacare, but president obama has not put forward a plan to deal with the entitlement crisis. he put forward no...
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it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficits. >> white house spokesman jay carney broke new ground declaring today the president does want spending cuts, listed in his budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is o
it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down the deficits. >> white house spokesman jay carney broke new ground declaring today the president does want spending cuts, listed in his budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those?...
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>>> a balanced approach to deficit reduction is the right approach. i would say that the president made clear he will not sign a bill that extends the bush era tax cuts for those making more than 250,000 dollars. >> it's time for the president to present a fan that rises above the reckless and the radical voices on the hard left that goes beyond the talking points of the campaign rail. that has a realistic chance of passing the congress. the time for campaigning is over. time for the president to lead. >> bret: some of the back-and-forth on the fiscal cliff and negotiations that are upcoming. if the white house gets its way. all tax cuts on high income earners are let go, expiring, the bush era tax cuts, this is what you are looking at. according to the treasury department it costs the federal government 9.69 billion a day to run the government. the expiration would be $8.24 billion a year on the top earners. roughly $82.4 billion a year. $824 billion in ten years. that would per year run the federal government for 8.5 days a year. that is if the tax
>>> a balanced approach to deficit reduction is the right approach. i would say that the president made clear he will not sign a bill that extends the bush era tax cuts for those making more than 250,000 dollars. >> it's time for the president to present a fan that rises above the reckless and the radical voices on the hard left that goes beyond the talking points of the campaign rail. that has a realistic chance of passing the congress. the time for campaigning is over. time for...
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oh my goodness deficit deficit deficit, fix the tax code, and what are they proposing lowering their own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and write it off in their taxes $20 million a year ceos from these corporations, and continue to spread the hysteria and--and if their plan goes through the austerity plan, they and their company and their bonuses are actually the only thing that is going to improve in this economy. >> eliot: as they have over the past couple of years. income disparity is worse and worse and incomes are going up. lloyd blankfein telling people that they people should not expect to work for 25 years and then retire for 30. i don't think he understands what social security is all about. >>> the hispanic caucus said no today
oh my goodness deficit deficit deficit, fix the tax code, and what are they proposing lowering their own taxes. it's a sham and they ought to be rolled out of town if people understand what they were talking about. >> if people are worried about how they're going to take care of the homeless, how schools will be able to accommodate 30 kids in the class rom how people will be able to make ends meet when unemployment disappears. they can't be here. they can't afford it. they come here and...
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the campaign promise is to cut the deficit in half. he said he would do it by focusing at the center of his proposal, going to be entitlement reform. we have seen none of that. more than four years. >> bret: interesting op-ed by bill archer and chris cox in "wall street journal" saying that the real outlay is $86 trillion of unfunded liabilities. obligations when you include all of the federal government, what it owes. that is obviously dwarfs the $16 trillion in debt we hold. >> which raises the question why are republicans allowing the entire debate to be about taxes? and about the war among republicans over holding the line on the norquist pledge or not. when what obama is proposing on raising the rates on the 2% is a triviality. it will reduce the deficit from $11.01 trillion to $1. $1.02 trillion. eight cents on the dollar. nothing. lunch money. it's rounding error. yet that is all the debate we are hearing. obama understands this. he is trying to, he is not trying to fix our fiscal issues and problems. he's trying to destroy the
the campaign promise is to cut the deficit in half. he said he would do it by focusing at the center of his proposal, going to be entitlement reform. we have seen none of that. more than four years. >> bret: interesting op-ed by bill archer and chris cox in "wall street journal" saying that the real outlay is $86 trillion of unfunded liabilities. obligations when you include all of the federal government, what it owes. that is obviously dwarfs the $16 trillion in debt we hold....
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deficit of $1 trillion a year. you are only 18% of the way. you are still missing 82% of the pie here. that is the number. >> dana: two minutes left, can i ask you one other thing. transparency. some on right try to push for negotiations to be in the public and broadcast on cspan. that is a terrible idea. >> brian: it is terrible idea. the only time they dealt with the sleeves up and working deals out, grant you, eric, you are right. the grand compromise. you talk about stimulus and obamacare and the auto bail-out they did it on their own. president was not engaged. he passed it along. i don't care what harry reid says. medicare and medicaid and social security have to be restructured, not fine tuned. obamacare has to be in play. >> eric: you don't want to see it on c-span? i do. >> andrea: you worked on the hill, i did. we worked in washington. the chances of it really happening on c-span would happen in the men's room and the hallways. call each other after the camera left the room. someone brought this idea to me and it's really crazy. what
deficit of $1 trillion a year. you are only 18% of the way. you are still missing 82% of the pie here. that is the number. >> dana: two minutes left, can i ask you one other thing. transparency. some on right try to push for negotiations to be in the public and broadcast on cspan. that is a terrible idea. >> brian: it is terrible idea. the only time they dealt with the sleeves up and working deals out, grant you, eric, you are right. the grand compromise. you talk about stimulus and...
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we also have an infrastructure deficit and education and skills training deficit. we want to get back on track and address that issue. they will have a paycheck and their families will be able to have food on the table. i think this showed us that we can work in a bipartisan way. i hope that we can do that moving forward now to address the number one issue for every family. jobs. >> why would this be more successful in addressing taxes or entitlement program when the by in group for the -- >> the answer is pretty obvious. hanging over the head of the joint committee is this trigger that is pretty drastic. >> are there things to keep this from happening again? is there a chance that the house caucus once again will say, we are t going to support a debt ceiling increase after 2013. >> i think this sets the tone for what happens in the future and think the trigger kicks in. of course, they will take places in between that and 2013. >> the extension, by the end of the day, would you be head to head? >> we have 80,000 jobs on the line. we started construction about two
we also have an infrastructure deficit and education and skills training deficit. we want to get back on track and address that issue. they will have a paycheck and their families will be able to have food on the table. i think this showed us that we can work in a bipartisan way. i hope that we can do that moving forward now to address the number one issue for every family. jobs. >> why would this be more successful in addressing taxes or entitlement program when the by in group for the...
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martha: reid says any agreement must have the wealthy to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. this time they are protesting the current president martha maccallum and his power grab. they are disillusioned with what he has brought to their country. then you have this happening. police firing teargas. gypt's highest courts refusing to work in protest of morsi's actions. steve harrigan is streaming live from cairo. the protests looked like the unrest we sa
martha: reid says any agreement must have the wealthy to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and...
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but we heard no mention of congress dealing with our soaring debtor deficit spending, or where spending cuts of any type might come or how we are going to address the larger issue: we all know that tax hikes on the rich ain't going to get it down. progressive groups reportedly held a private meeting with senior obama administration white house officials. according to the "washington post" the groups were told not to worry about any entitlement reforms or big budget cuts. the so-called safety net programs according to them are not going to be touched and the progressive groups walked away feeling very happy. the report say the white house feels it does not need to compromise, period and is willing to let the big tax hike happen on everybody. the big tax hike is what everybody will face not just the rich or the middle class. they think they'll be in a better position to negotiate with the g.o.p. after that happens. chris stirewalt joins me, host of power play on foxnews.com. >> i was a little frightened, i thought something i, really bad was happening instead of the standard badness. megy
but we heard no mention of congress dealing with our soaring debtor deficit spending, or where spending cuts of any type might come or how we are going to address the larger issue: we all know that tax hikes on the rich ain't going to get it down. progressive groups reportedly held a private meeting with senior obama administration white house officials. according to the "washington post" the groups were told not to worry about any entitlement reforms or big budget cuts. the so-called...
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it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he called obama care the law of the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the budget. >> you had said, next year, that you would repeal the health care vote. that's still your mission? >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was re-elected. obama care is the law of the land. i think there are parts of the health care law that are going to be very difficult to implement. and very expensive. and at a time where we're trying to find a way to create a path toward a balanced budget, everything has to be on the table. >> but you won't be spending the time next year, trying to repeal obama care? >> there are certainly may be parts of it that we b
it doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of a deficit reduction program, as part of a deficit reduction deal. the white house already rejected boehner's idea. obama care will not be part of debt negotiations. boehner is up to something here, don't you think? something else, that is. if you watch john boehner closely over the last two weeks, you can see him laying the ground work for the latest ploy. he called obama care the law of the land, but also tried to link it to obama care and the...
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we don't know how much we address the deficit problem by closing loopholes. impasse. martha: we'll see where that goes. stuart, thanks very much. we'll talk to chris van hollen moments away. bob,er is also here today. we'll get to some of that with them. thanks, stuart. bill: some context from how far the revenue ending bush tax cuts would go. during the 2012 fiscal year it costs $9.7 billion a day to run the federal government. the additional revenue stopping bush tax cuts would bring in $82.4 billion. a number that would run the government for 8 1/2 days. senator corker says there is plan on the table for two years. martha: that grand bargain that was so close. we'll see where that is in terms of both sides. bill:. we're just getting started on this tuesday morning. how about this story? oh, my gosh, a toddler seconds away from almost certain death in this video as a car comes barreling around that bend. we'll show you what the rest of what happens here and we'll tell you what ended up happening. bill: there is new violence on the streets of key roy. in fact we're g
we don't know how much we address the deficit problem by closing loopholes. impasse. martha: we'll see where that goes. stuart, thanks very much. we'll talk to chris van hollen moments away. bob,er is also here today. we'll get to some of that with them. thanks, stuart. bill: some context from how far the revenue ending bush tax cuts would go. during the 2012 fiscal year it costs $9.7 billion a day to run the federal government. the additional revenue stopping bush tax cuts would bring in $82.4...
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it's complete bs to say that this has any deficit implications. it doesn't. this is just a smoke screen. it's a red herring. it's another excuse for not doing what needs to be done. the american people have spoken. the central issue in the campaign was not only tax fairness but raising taxes on the top 2% as a means to help us balance -- get rid of the deficit and eat into the debt. and the american people have said, yes, that's one of the components of the deal. so this is just another smoke screen. it's a delaying tactic. i truly believe that if they keep this up they will pay for it and they will pay for it big time, certainly in the election of 2014. but the sad part is, the nation and people can't wait. we've got to resolve this debt because if we do so, rev, will cause the economy to explode. we will see a resurge in investment, good things happening for the economy. >> congressman ellison, with all of that at stake and clear from every expert that we've heard, it's clear that if we don't solve this problem, if we have the fiscal cliff, if we go over at
it's complete bs to say that this has any deficit implications. it doesn't. this is just a smoke screen. it's a red herring. it's another excuse for not doing what needs to be done. the american people have spoken. the central issue in the campaign was not only tax fairness but raising taxes on the top 2% as a means to help us balance -- get rid of the deficit and eat into the debt. and the american people have said, yes, that's one of the components of the deal. so this is just another smoke...
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>> so much of the federal deficit does come from ticket demographic problem, which is that many baby boomers are going to be retiring -- the fact -- come from a demographic problem, which is that many baby boomers are going to be retiring. >> we are maintaining the position of no cuts, because there's not any conversation happening in this capital area yet about revenue. that there can be improvements in the delivery of medicare. the demographic problem in this country in our minds has to be solved by creating good jobs and getting the economy growing from people spending again because i have enough money in their pockets to generate the kind of revenue that will allow for the medicare system to be solvent through the next generation. >> would you go along with passed medicare cuts of president obama has proposed in past budgets, and seek to cut the rate of growth? >> our current position is that there is no reason to entertain any question like that, because there is no indication that we're going to break on revenue. it is important to maintain and no cuts position to break the no
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i think that, you know, if we cut the budget, if we cut the deficit and raise taxes, i don't think that's the worst thing in the world. as warren buffett has been saying for the last 24 hours, are you really going to turn down a good investment opportunity just because the tax rates are a little higher in we're talking about a minor 4 percentage point increase in the upper end of the tax rate here. it's not life or death. you know, cutting the deficit and raising taxes, if they can't agree, which congress has shown themselves inability to agree. if they're not going to agree, maybe it's not the worst thing in the world for tax rates to go up and for the deficit to be cut. i think that could result in a big economic boom. >> wow. >> and then, let's say two weeks after we go over the cliff, after the 1st of january, they then cut attacks for everybody -- >> but here's the problem with that notion. it's not fine. but, john, it's not fine because a lot of ordinary middle class people -- >> that's the problem. >> -- are trying to spend money at christmas and they're deeply anxious about what's
i think that, you know, if we cut the budget, if we cut the deficit and raise taxes, i don't think that's the worst thing in the world. as warren buffett has been saying for the last 24 hours, are you really going to turn down a good investment opportunity just because the tax rates are a little higher in we're talking about a minor 4 percentage point increase in the upper end of the tax rate here. it's not life or death. you know, cutting the deficit and raising taxes, if they can't agree,...
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as a matter of deficit negotiations, i think boehner is not on strong footing. >> interesting. there are a lot of problems with obama care. i think obama would be the first person to acknowledge that. he didn't get a lot of things he wanted in there. but david frum, what is john boehner doing? what is he possibly trying to gain from this? >> okay, i'm going with your crazy luke a fox option. >> good. >> john baner is about to have to bring the more conservative part of his caucus, some very bad news. republicans don't have a wlost leverage. tax cuts expire whether without anybody doing anything. and republicans are going to end up yielding a lot more than they give -- than they get in the negotiations. and john boehner, as the chief negotiator is the man identified with that surrender. so he needs to put down a marker now that says to the right wheel of the caucus, hey, i'm with you. if it were up to me, 100%. i'm with you. and i am going to put it in writing. i'm completely in favor of doing all the things that would have happened if we won the election. however, we didn't win
as a matter of deficit negotiations, i think boehner is not on strong footing. >> interesting. there are a lot of problems with obama care. i think obama would be the first person to acknowledge that. he didn't get a lot of things he wanted in there. but david frum, what is john boehner doing? what is he possibly trying to gain from this? >> okay, i'm going with your crazy luke a fox option. >> good. >> john baner is about to have to bring the more conservative part of...
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the bars below zero represent years when the deficit grew. these bars above zero represent years when the deficit shrunk. we're here right now in the deficit shrunk portion of the chart. the point of the shrinking on the whole chart back to 1950. when somebody stops inevitably matering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you can help with visual aids. we have posted both of those charts we just showed you on our blog and you can load them on your smartphone or ipad to pass around the table and print them out on paper in case your uncle doesn't look liking at these new things. those are waiting for you now. we are here for you. you can do this. report back and let us know how it went. that does it for us tonight. have a great thanksgiving. we'll see you monday. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell guest hosted by the spectacular ezra kline. good evening. >> good evening, rachel. i am glad to know other people bring char
the bars below zero represent years when the deficit grew. these bars above zero represent years when the deficit shrunk. we're here right now in the deficit shrunk portion of the chart. the point of the shrinking on the whole chart back to 1950. when somebody stops inevitably matering about the fiscal cliff and the sky rocketing deficit, they don't know what they're talking about and they probably don't know it is wrong but you can help with visual aids. we have posted both of those charts we...
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it's all about the deficit. he's not interested in people's suffering. he's interested in the deficit. that's where his focus is. >> that's exactly right. and he's not interested in the argument that perhaps for a stronger economy we need to care about the middle class and if we keep chopping them off at the knees, there's not going to be anybody to buy the products from the companies they're investing in. >> ari, we know the president when he was in the midst of that negotiation of a grand bargain with speaker boehner, he contemplated the prospect of raising the age at which it would trigger entitlements, particularly for social security. do you think this time around he'll do the same or do you think progressives will hold him to account on that and say no, no way? >> i'm concerned about it, and i think the problem is the red lines on the left side of this debate are not as clear as the ones on the right. you know, everyone spent a lot of time worrying about whether grover norquist is happy. but the fact of the political ecology in washington is there
it's all about the deficit. he's not interested in people's suffering. he's interested in the deficit. that's where his focus is. >> that's exactly right. and he's not interested in the argument that perhaps for a stronger economy we need to care about the middle class and if we keep chopping them off at the knees, there's not going to be anybody to buy the products from the companies they're investing in. >> ari, we know the president when he was in the midst of that negotiation of...
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. >> let's make sure that revenue is an integral part of deficit reduction. yes, from my side of the table bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside. doesn't add to the deficit but when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program but give it solvency for more and more years. martha: alabama republican jeff sessions is the ranking member on the senate budget committee. senator sessions good morning. good to have you here today. >> martha, thank you. martha: a lot of talk this morning after these sunday shows and watching both sides talk about this fiscal cliff about who seems to be moving and in what direction. what are you hearing, what are you hearing from lindsey graham who says, quote he is willing to break that pledge on taxes under certain circumstances? what are they really saying? >> i'm not sure what they're saying. there's a lot of this talk going on. i don't know who is speaking for the republican party. the house of representatives where you have a substantial republican majority but the
. >> let's make sure that revenue is an integral part of deficit reduction. yes, from my side of the table bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside. doesn't add to the deficit but when it comes to medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program but give it solvency for more and more years. martha: alabama republican jeff sessions is the ranking member on the senate budget committee. senator sessions good morning. good to have you here today....
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naturally is part the deficit-reduction discussions. the group supporting the attack site include state highway officials, road builders, trucking associations, the simpson-bowles planner it proposed raising the tax as well. there's another tax in the fiscal cliff and possible gas tax is not the only tax to hit the bottom line. deal or no deal, hold on to your wallet. here with more, the senior tax policy analyst for the heritage foundation. always nice to have you on the show. let's talk out the bottom line for so many people out there, it will hit so many folks, 90% of households, almost impossible escape and create that. >> everyone's taxes will go up on january 1st. important to point out we're talking about today which is raising taxes. that is off point. the fiscal cliff is here because we're spending tooomuch. we are the precedents of the debt crisis because we're spending too muc how we can raise taxes and talk about raising the gas tax, nothing to do with cutting spending which is where we should be directing our attention. ger
naturally is part the deficit-reduction discussions. the group supporting the attack site include state highway officials, road builders, trucking associations, the simpson-bowles planner it proposed raising the tax as well. there's another tax in the fiscal cliff and possible gas tax is not the only tax to hit the bottom line. deal or no deal, hold on to your wallet. here with more, the senior tax policy analyst for the heritage foundation. always nice to have you on the show. let's talk out...
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the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on the republicans. >> today, i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress, write them an e-mail, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using the hash tag my 2 k, not y2 k. >> the president was laughing about you the strategy, seriously effective. the my2k was one of the top trends on twitter all day long. republicans aren't too happy. they are getting outflanked. >> if the president wants to reach an agreement, he n
the president's message >>> if we get this part of it right, a lot of the other issues surrounding deficit reduction are going to be a whole lot easier. if we get this wrong, the economy is going to go south. we don't have a lot of time here. we have a few weeks to get this thing done. we could get it done tomorrow. optimistically, i don't think we are going to get it done tomorrow. >> the white house is using all social media resources to get the message out and put pressure on...
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i sat back and watched my country grow a huge deficit while i accumulated money that was handed to me while i had tax increases that i didn't ask for. so i want to see my class step up and do what it has the capacity to do. >> you may have a chance who knows. thank you. >> casey mulligan, thank you very much. now let's go to grover, he has never been more prominent. here is my question for you. the republican ares are taking about tax hikes. it doesn't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. that is bill crystal weekly standard. what is your take on the verbal time bomb? >> he focuses on other issues and has said before that he would leave the republican party and join the liberal hawks if the party was pro war in the past. i don't know how he gets plural on hawks. but the party is committed to low taxes and limited government and the people who aren't there can't call themselves republicans or conserve taticon. after this elicks grover, did people want to see common ground to deal with a fiscal cliff recession or trillion deficits as far as the eye can see? i
i sat back and watched my country grow a huge deficit while i accumulated money that was handed to me while i had tax increases that i didn't ask for. so i want to see my class step up and do what it has the capacity to do. >> you may have a chance who knows. thank you. >> casey mulligan, thank you very much. now let's go to grover, he has never been more prominent. here is my question for you. the republican ares are taking about tax hikes. it doesn't kill the country if we raise...
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as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided government means that neither democrats nor republicans will be able to pass legislation along strictly partisan lines. it means bipartisan compromise is the only way to avoid further gridlock. we cannot tax our way back to budget surpluses and economic prosperity. without major spending cuts and entitlement reform, we will continue running huge deficits regardless of what we do on the revenue side. for every dollar of revenue you give him, he'll give you $2.50 of spending cuts. if he gave you that on spending cuts, it would be $850 billon a year would you do that? >> the president has said a lot of t
as you know, we have a trillion dollar annual deficit and this would not close that gap at all. so the president needs to come up with a plan and for better or worse going to require leadership. no member of the senate or the house is going to be able to do this, this is something the president has to do by himself and he can't do it on the campaign trail. >> let me ask you this because you wrote an op-ed today and you wrote about divided government about the deal. you said divided...
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shy add, chris, that another really important part of this conversation in addition to long term deficit reduction is making sure that we get sustained economic recovery. we saw some good numbers today, but we want to make sure that we sustain that recovery. and extending middle class text cuts is part of it, but so is investing in our infrastructure, so are other elements of the president's jobs plan that should be part of this overall agreement. >> we have seen several liberal democrats to say that it is better to go off that cliff than to get a bad deal. and i'm wondering if you agree because it seems like the ceos who came out of the meeting with the president yesterday were most worried or at least seriously worried about the effect of not getting a deal on time and the effect that will have on the economy. >> we absolutely want to avoid going over the fiscal cliff because it would be a big drag on the economy. >> but are you willing to do that? >> what we're willing to do is come up with a package that both accelerates economic recovery, but also begins to reduce the long term defi
shy add, chris, that another really important part of this conversation in addition to long term deficit reduction is making sure that we get sustained economic recovery. we saw some good numbers today, but we want to make sure that we sustain that recovery. and extending middle class text cuts is part of it, but so is investing in our infrastructure, so are other elements of the president's jobs plan that should be part of this overall agreement. >> we have seen several liberal democrats...
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they prioritize job creation over deficit reduction. now, the reality is the two don't have to be mutually exclusive, and i think that's what we're seeing from senator schumer when he's talking about perhaps extending the payroll tax holiday which is something that would effect 160 million americans in the middle class. look, when you talk about the last stimulus package, moody's concluded in 2010 that every dollar that was spent out of that package contributed $1.44 back to the economy. that's not a failure, that's a success. >> it is a failure when we -- >> we don't have a weak economy. we need to continue to focus on the weak economy, and aggressive deficit reduction is not going to help. ainsley: brad, what was your response? >> look, this is another payoff to the unions just like in 2009 for supporting the president. the president does not have a mandate from the american people, far from it. he got nine million less votes than he got the last time. if anything, this is a huge do over for all parties. [laughter] now, while the amer
they prioritize job creation over deficit reduction. now, the reality is the two don't have to be mutually exclusive, and i think that's what we're seeing from senator schumer when he's talking about perhaps extending the payroll tax holiday which is something that would effect 160 million americans in the middle class. look, when you talk about the last stimulus package, moody's concluded in 2010 that every dollar that was spent out of that package contributed $1.44 back to the economy. that's...
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. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion, for next year, in deficit and our national debt is now over $16 trillion, and everybody knows that, i don't need to write that down. and, the president's big plan, he wants -- wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. and here's how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 8$849 billion over ten years by allowing the bush tax cuts, here they go... away. on the 31st of december, this year. they'll expire for households with incomes more than $250,000, $849 billion, includes $206 billion, of higher taxes on dividends. $123 billion, on limiting itemized deductions. $36 billion, higher taxes on capital gains. and, next, the white house want to raise another $584 billion, over ten years... $584 billion, of that, over ten years by reducing the value of certain tax breaks, cutting tax breaks related to charitable contributions and, by the way it may have an impact on the housing industry and that should get everybody a little excited. we have something good going here as the saying goes now, in the housing industry and let's quash that. the rest of the
. $1.3 trillion in deficit. $901 billion, for next year, in deficit and our national debt is now over $16 trillion, and everybody knows that, i don't need to write that down. and, the president's big plan, he wants -- wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. and here's how he wants to get there. first he wants to raise 8$849 billion over ten years by allowing the bush tax cuts, here they go... away. on the 31st of december, this year. they'll expire for households with incomes more than $250,000, $849...
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well, as you know, we are running over $1 trillion deficit. even if it is a few hundred billion of revenue, it is going to reduce the total amount of borrowing. and it has to be mediate. it can't be a promise for future spending cuts. >> this last point. is it possible to have rules? >> a lot of famous economists say we should have rules on spending. why not have a cap on debt as a share on gdp. why not have that as our goal is to put it as 50 or 60%? >> well, the answer is you could. except we out to be progractica. but whatever laws congress sets congress can break. they have refused to do a budget. it is not a rule it is a law and it is the statute. so, i'm in favor of some of these rules, but i'm recognizing at the end of the day, what matters more is what you send to washington. >> well, we he have a little more than a month to go and nobody seap seems to know how s going to play out. many, many thanks for coming on. cyber monday was a record breaker this year. sales rising 30% compared to this year. mobile dievises played a big role. so
well, as you know, we are running over $1 trillion deficit. even if it is a few hundred billion of revenue, it is going to reduce the total amount of borrowing. and it has to be mediate. it can't be a promise for future spending cuts. >> this last point. is it possible to have rules? >> a lot of famous economists say we should have rules on spending. why not have a cap on debt as a share on gdp. why not have that as our goal is to put it as 50 or 60%? >> well, the answer is...
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college students have contributed $4.50 billion out of their pockets toward deficit reduction. we have had things squeezing us at different levels. we are facing the biggest threat from what is called a sequester, the fiscal cliff. one part of the fiscal cliff arc across the board -- across the board -- are across-the-board spending cuts. they will be cutting housing and food safety and the entire range of domestic programs. for education, that will be head start, which is in the department of health and human services. there will be a $4.80 billion cut, the largest education cut in the history of the country. that will move us that courts whether the goal is -- move us backwards. our biggest challenge in the short-term is to work together with groups like the urban league and the national council of la raza to come up with a balanced approach to deficit reduction and ask people who can pay a little bit more to do so without balancing the budget on the backs of children and students and working people and low income people. a couple of quick things i want to say. we are also fa
college students have contributed $4.50 billion out of their pockets toward deficit reduction. we have had things squeezing us at different levels. we are facing the biggest threat from what is called a sequester, the fiscal cliff. one part of the fiscal cliff arc across the board -- across the board -- are across-the-board spending cuts. they will be cutting housing and food safety and the entire range of domestic programs. for education, that will be head start, which is in the department of...
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>> regarding the deficit. cbo said if knock is done with the fiscal cliff we'll get $800 billion per year added to the deficit. and obama-care amounts for $100 billion of that. it's $100 boyle in spending that doesn't currently exist. if we are going to do everything we can to keep the economy growing the easiest thing we can cut is spending that's not yet taking place. but i think the bottom line is you have got to start from an absolute beginning where you look at everything equally. if obama-care is the most important program then it survives. if there are other thing that are more important it does not survive. we take one thing off the table from the outset this is not a true negotiation. you look at everything that exists and make decisions about each of them based on their own merits. not take one single bill and taking its off the table. particularly a bill that 47% of americans still oppose. rick: the number of people who still don't know exactly what obama-care is all about, whether they would benefi
>> regarding the deficit. cbo said if knock is done with the fiscal cliff we'll get $800 billion per year added to the deficit. and obama-care amounts for $100 billion of that. it's $100 boyle in spending that doesn't currently exist. if we are going to do everything we can to keep the economy growing the easiest thing we can cut is spending that's not yet taking place. but i think the bottom line is you have got to start from an absolute beginning where you look at everything equally. if...
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not to reduce the deficit. if the goal was to reduce the deficit, why refuse to end taxpayer subsidies for the oil companies? if reducing the deficit was the purpose, why refuse to and special breaks for corporate jets and the folks at the very high end of the income scale? that was not the plan. the plan was to use this moment to threaten the economy, to try and slash the social safety net and those critical investments in education, innovation, and our future. guess what? they failed to do that. they failed to end the medicare guaranteed. they failed to slash medicaid, education. in this measure, we succeeded in protecting medicare and social security beneficiaries. we succeeded in protecting seniors in nursing homes, individuals with disabilities, and poor kids who depend on medicaid for their health care. we succeeded in providing room for critical investments in education and america's future. do not get the wrong, mr. speaker. there is much in this plan i do not like. we did not succeed in shutting down s
not to reduce the deficit. if the goal was to reduce the deficit, why refuse to end taxpayer subsidies for the oil companies? if reducing the deficit was the purpose, why refuse to and special breaks for corporate jets and the folks at the very high end of the income scale? that was not the plan. the plan was to use this moment to threaten the economy, to try and slash the social safety net and those critical investments in education, innovation, and our future. guess what? they failed to do...